90 day visa run

[interbrit]

Hi,

I'm a Brit living in Kyiv and need to do a 90 visa run sometime in early December.

Can anyone suggest a neighbouring country to visit for at least one overnighter so that I can combine the visa run with a visit to a new country?

Preferably with minimal visa requirements for that country and and able to be booked as a package deal by a local travel agency.

Thanks.

Interbrit

[matlockk]

Have you seen the news that your 90 days is only valid in every 180?? There is a lot of confusion around this and its not clear if it's being enforced yet. To be safe I'm off to London for a one year multi entry(MM1) work visa.

[Lt. Campers]

Yes Interbrit - the days when you could live and work in Ukraine visa free by doing a moonlight flip across the border are gone. See below:

In the past, citizens of the EU (including British citizens) were allowed to enter Ukraine without a visa for a visit of up to 90 days and had to leave Ukraine before the expiration of the 90-day term. It was possible to re-enter Ukraine on the following day and stay for another 90-day period without a visa. The overall duration of the stay per calendar year was not restricted and could amount to more than 90 days.
 
Since the Decree came into power in July 2007, the overall duration of the stay without a visa must not exceed 90 calendar days per 180 calendar days from the date of arrival.

So your choice is either apply for the MM1 work visa - or split your working time between Ukraine and another country ( in order not to exceed the 90 days in every 180 days rule )
Now if that other country should be Bulgaria - then I'm sure theirs a host of british expats in the Bulgarian property market who would love to sign you up for a six month let in Sofia, etc.

[interbrit]

Thanks for these replies but can anybody give me some advice on my original question.

I am aware of the max 90 days per 180 days question but nobody seems to know what is the situation with this and whether in fact it is, or is intended to be, put in force.  One of my colleagues recently asked a senior immigration official at the airport and was told that they had never heard of it.  This doesn't mean I'm relaxed about the situation but it's possible that we are worrying for nothing, at least in the short term.

Interbrit

[JonathanCampion]

As for places to go, Moscow is fantastic but you'll need more than a couple of days to explore. I suppose Minsk is the closest, then Bucharest.

[Florian]

Why not go for a day or two to Warsaw. It may not be the most interesting city in the world, but you don't need a visa and the train there is quite comfortable.

Enjoy!

[ecocks]

Next week I am running up to Warsaw by train for business and an extended weekend but would have preferred Budapest for the scenery.  Have seen a few blurbs in the travel press that Budapest is a fantastic city and has some excellent bargains.  Still, Warsaw has an old town and some good deals, I found a 5-star hotel for less than $100 a night and think we will enjoy it.  If anyone has any recommendations on restaurants or "can't miss" sites, this would be a good time to post them on expatua.com.

Ed

[Claus]

Well, they may or they may not apply the rules  . You have the nerve for that?
Anyhow, in my opinion the best close-by cities are Prague and Vienna, both gorgeous old imperial towns...

[Lt. Campers]

Interbrit - believe me the 90 day in every 180 day rule - is now the new law governing visa free regulations in Ukraine.

This being confirmed by both the UK and the US government travel advice to people visiting Ukraine. See British Foreign & Commonwealth website below:
http://www.britishembassy.gov.uk/servlet/Front?pagename=OpenMarket/Xcelerate/ShowPage&c=Page&cid=1087554800722

Now - of course its down to you whether you choose to ignore such advice from the British embassy.

[SteveH]

I Would have thought that the Polish town of Medyka,not far from Livov,is Close enough for a basic "Run or 1 Hour Stopover".

[rjm]

My prefered route used to be the overnight train to Lvov then spend the Next day there.

On 2nd day go in the morning to the bus station and take the bus to Pzemysl in Poland, about 30gr and its just over the border, you can spean a pleasant afternoon there then take the bus back to Lvov at night, you can either then take the 22.50 train back to Kiev or stay the night in Lvov, whatever your preference takes.

Anyone who has done that crossing will confirm its quite an experience, the buses are full of smugglers 

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