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« Reply #15 on: July 29, 12:51 AM »

Pretty good chances for Ukrainian Criss Misses, parading Kreschatik on the daily basis. One way or another, they get what they want ! Boryspil is overcrowded with newly wedded Ukie chicks Nasha Rasha style (married for Passports)... Keep on the good job, guys, Atlantis is calling !
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« Reply #16 on: September 04, 11:20 AM »

BRUSSELS, July 25 (Reuters) -
"People from outside the
European Union married to the bloc's citizens must be allowed to
stay in an EU country where their spouse resides, the EU's top
court ruled on Friday."

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Upon Enquiring to the " Fco.gov.uk" about this European Court Ruling,
This is the Reply i Got.

"The Immigration Rules have not changed in light of the ruling that you have referred to in your email.
 
Although the UK is a member of the European Economic Area (EEA), our guidance regarding EEA Family Permits does not, in general, apply to British nationals and their families. The guidance relating to British nationals is confined to cases where a British national has exercised an economic Treaty right in another EEA member state and is intending to return to the UK to exercise similar rights. It would appear from the content of your email that you have not exercised an economic Treaty right in another EEA member state.

 

There is no automatic right for a non-EEA National spouse of a British Citizen to visit or settle in the UK. It is necessary for all applicants to demonstrate that they meet the requirements under the Immigration Rules for the relevant category of entry clearance that they are applying
for. "

So as You can See,Once Again the UK decides on What E.U.Court Rules it does and Does Not want to Abide by.
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« Reply #17 on: September 04, 11:31 AM »

I hope somebody takes them to court soon over it - the outcome would be very interesting.  Lips sealed
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« Reply #18 on: September 04, 11:54 AM »

Same discussion going on in Denmark  Tongue.
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« Reply #19 on: September 04, 12:01 PM »

It took them 33 Days to Reply to my Original Email,
It has just taken Them 33 Minutes to Reply to my Last Email,

Dear Mr H
 
I am sorry that you are not satisfied with my response, however I am afraid that there is nothing further I can add to my previous email to you below.
Guidance regarding settlement, visitor and EEA Family Permits can be found via our website: www.ukvisas.gov.uk
 
This matter is therefore considered closed.
 
Yours sincerely
 
 
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« Reply #20 on: September 04, 12:18 PM »

It took them 33 Days to Reply to my Original Email,
It has just taken Them 33 Minutes to Reply to my Last Email,

Dear Mr H
 
I am sorry that you are not satisfied with my response, however I am afraid that there is nothing further I can add to my previous email to you below.
Guidance regarding settlement, visitor and EEA Family Permits can be found via our website: www.ukvisas.gov.uk
 
This matter is therefore considered closed.
 
Yours sincerely
 
 
Visa Customer Services
UK Border Agency

Closed until it is officially challenged  Wink
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« Reply #21 on: September 05, 03:56 AM »

Just out of interest - here is an email I sent to the boy Miliband currently "running" the FCO:

As the below is now a stated case in EU law, could you please advise me on the questions which follow it:
 
BRUSSELS, July 25 (Reuters) - People from outside the
European Union married to the bloc's citizens must be allowed to
stay in an EU country where their spouse resides, the EU's top
court ruled on Friday.
    The ruling is expected to put pressure on some EU states
which, seeking to curb flows of immigrants, restrict the
spouses' residence rights
    The European Court of Justice ruled in favour of four
African men who married EU citizens in Ireland but were later
refused a permit to stay in that country.
    The Irish justice ministry had argued that under the
country's law such permits could be granted only to people who
had been lawful residents of another EU member states.
    But the court said the provision breached the EU's directive
on free movement of citizens.
    "A non-Community spouse of a citizen of the Union can move
and reside with that citizen in the Union without having
previously been lawfully resident in a member states," the
Luxembourg-based court said in a statement.
 
 
Do I still need to provide financial statements etc. etc. for my Ukrainian wife to obtain a visa to visit the UK as, according to the ruling, (unless she presents a threat to the UK via terrorism etc.), she can live there whether she has £10 Million or £10.00 with me should/when/if I chose to return unless the UK intends to restrict the movement of a UK/EU citizen as per the ruling.
 
I can see no reason why my/her/our personal finances etc. need to be scrutinised any longer in order to get a visa to visit the UK, as stated, it now makes no difference how much money she has should we ever return there permanently, I would therefore consider it an unwarranted infringement of my "EU citizen" civil liberties and an unnecessary invasion of privacy when applying for a visa for her henceforth.  (This would probably be upheld by the EU Court in light of the above ruling).
 
She will be submitting a visa application soon for a visit to the UK (with absolutely no intention of either of us staying), and I assume in line with the above mentioned ruling, the relative Visa body has been instructed to allow all spouses requiring visas for entry into the UK for whatever reason to adhere to the ruling and ensure my, (as an EU citizen and as per the ruling, therefore her) unrestricted movement within the EU, which at present still includes the UK.
 
It remains to be seen if the new agreed Ukrainian/EU visa tariff of 35 Euros will be levied in Kyiv or not for the visa.
 
I await your prompt reply (as do tens of thousands of internet linked expats married to non-EU citizens).
 
Regards,
 
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I will await the reply  Roll Eyes

The email address if any Brit wants to annoy the FCO with the same questions is:

msu.correspondence@fco.gov.uk

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« Reply #22 on: September 05, 04:26 AM »

I did - the reply was:

What is the question?

I did try and keep the question simple for them - It was a closed question requiring only a "yes" or "no" answer.  You have to worry at the thicky twins we employ in our "forgeign facing" departments. 

What would have happened if I asked an open question requiring some for of detailed answer.
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« Reply #23 on: September 05, 09:19 AM »

I Sent a Very Similar Email as Niks,i only Slightly altered 1 or 2 Words/Figures.
Obviously a different Person read my email to the One Nik Sent.
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